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bacon?

jcclark

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Most recipies I come across require 1/2 to 1 pound of bacon. I can understand the flavor and grease factor but they rarely say to cut them into smaller pieces or to discard them or any info for that matter. Any further comment in the directions is limited to draining the grease. Is it expected that users are to cut it into bite size pieces, bacon bits, or maybe even an undisclosed understanding that it is to be discarded after the flavor set's in and before the first main ingredient.
I'm sure some dutch oven veterans can help.
Thanks,

Jim C :)
 
I've never had a recipe with bacon as an ingredient where it did not state how it was to be used, usually crumbled. Do you have a specific problem recipe?
 
bacon

I've been primarily using a book titled "Kettles and Coals" by Ken & Cheryl Allred. Most of their recipies don't specify what to do with the bacon. The recipie I just happened to glance at was on page 48, all of the 3 chicken recipies list bacon and no options with what to do with it. Most of the recipies in this book are that way and several recipies I find online as well. I didn't think of it before but I should also ask the authors of the book I'm using as an example. I like your idea of crumbling it though. I think it's an excellent idea.
 
Welcome to the forum. I would include the bacon unless specifically stated otherwise. And never discard bacon, that's like a bonus to the cook, just eat it as a snack while you're continuing cooking :D
 
here'sa couple examples - maybe you can modify or use???

Wrapped BBQ Chicken
Yield: Makes 4 servings
Ingredients:
8 chicken tender strips, patted dry (about 1 pound)
1/2 teaspoon paprika or cumin (optional)
8 slices bacon
1/2 cup barbecue sauce, divided


1.
Preheat broiler. Line broiler pan with foil; set aside.


2.
Sprinkle chicken strips with paprika. Wrap each chicken strip with 1 slice of bacon in spiral pattern; place on broiler pan.


3.
Broil chicken 4 minutes. Turn chicken over; broil 2 minutes more. Remove from oven; brush with 1/4 cup barbecue sauce. Broil 2 minutes. Remove from oven. Turn over chicken strips; baste with remaining 1/4 cup barbecue sauce. Broil 2 minutes. Serve warm.



1/2 cup mayonnaise
1 tablespoon cider vinegar
1 tablespoon lemon juice
2 tablespoons barbecue seasoning
4 Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breasts
4 bacon slices
1 cup Japanese breadcrumbs (panko)
2 tablespoons butter

1. Stir together first 3 ingredients in a small bowl. Set aside.
2. Rub barbecue seasoning evenly onto each chicken breast. Wrap 1 bacon slice around 1 seasoned chicken breast, stretching bacon, as necessary, to cover most of surface of chicken; slightly flatten each breast with palm of hand. Secure bacon with a wooden pick. Firmly press chicken in breadcrumbs in a large shallow bowl. Repeat procedure with remaining chicken, bacon, and breadcrumbs.

3. Melt butter in a large nonstick skillet over medium-high heat. Cook chicken in skillet 4 to 5 minutes on each side or until deep golden brown and done. Remove from skillet, and let cool slightly. Remove wooden picks before serving, and serve with mayonnaise mixture.



4 Tbs butter; melted
4 half (06 oz) chicken breasts, bnls, sknls; skin
1 tsp seasoning salt
2 clove garlic; crushed
4 sl bacon
1 cup mushrooms; halved
1/2 cup cream, heavy


Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
Pour melted butter into a 9x13 inch baking dish. Add chicken, meat side down; sprinkle with seasoning salt and garlic. Turn chicken over, season, and lay bacon strips on top. Sprinkle with mushrooms.
Bake in preheated oven for 45 minutes to 60 minutes, or until chicken is no longer pink and juices run clear.
Remove chicken, bacon and mushrooms to a platter and keep warm. Pour juices from baking dish into a small saucepan and whisk together with cream over low heat until thickened. Pour sauce over chicken and serve warm.
 
COOKING IN A DUTCH OVEN

You can cook anything in a Dutch Oven that you can cook at home in the oven or on the stove top! You really don't need special recipes for the Dutch Oven. All that you need to do is learn some basic procedures and how to control the heat. If done properly, you can place the food in the oven and enjoy yourself while your dinner cooks.

CONTROLLING HEAT
Use charcoal if you are just starting to cook in the Dutch Oven. If you are the cook, DON'T FORGET TO BUY CHARCOAL. For a hot Dutch Oven, place the number of hot coals underneath equal to the diameter of the oven. Place double that number on top. For a 12 inch oven, 12 underneath and 24 on top. This will give you a hot oven of about 400 degrees. To reduce your oven temperature, reduce the number of coals 1 bottom and 2 top for every 25 degrees. If it is very cold and/or windy you will need to add a few extra coals. Always preheat your oven before you add the food. Your coals should last about an hour. If your cooking time is more than an hour, or if the coals are burning fast because of the wind, you must have extra hot coals ready to keep the oven temperature consistent.

SPECIAL TECHNIQUES
BAKING - If you are using a baking pan, use an oven rack or some small metal items (washers) under the pan to allow a hot air space between the oven and the pan.
TOP BROWNING - If you need to brown something, concentrate the top coals in the center of the lid.
STACKING - If you are cooking in more than one oven, you can stack them. If you stack two 12 inch ovens, place 12 coals under the bottom oven, 12 coals on top of the bottom oven, and 24 coals on top of the top oven. You can stack several ovens. Remember that only the top oven gets the double coal amount on top. This technique saves coals. Place the items that you do not need to open during cooking on the bottom.
FRYING - You can turn the lid upside down and use it as a griddle for eggs, toasted cheese sandwiches, French toast, etc. Suspend the lid over the coals using rocks, logs, or a lid rack.

AN EASY RECIPE FOR BEGINNERS
Line a 12 inch Dutch Oven with foil. Preheat the oven with 10 coals on the bottom and 20 - 24 coals on the top. Pour in two 1lb. cans of peaches. Bring to a boil. Sprinkle one box of yellow cake mix over the peaches (ignore the instructions on the box!). Sprinkle 1/2 cup of sugar and one tablespoon of cinnamon on top. Press the mixture gently with a spoon to slightly moisten the ingredients. Cover and bake for 20 - 30 minutes. You can double this recipe in a 12 inch oven. REMEMBER - IF YOU CAN COOK IT ON TOP OF A STOVE OR IN AN OVEN, YOU CAN COOK IT IN A DUTCH OVEN!
 
Whether you’re looking for a Dutch oven cobbler recipe or a savory stew, your Dutch oven can handle it. Here are just a few of the Dutch oven recipes you can make:

Dutch oven Entrees
Pork spare ribs, Apricot glazed Cornish Hens, Italian sausages with Peppers and Onions, Chicken Enchiladas, Vegetarian pizza, and all-in-one meals such as stew and meat loaf.

Dutch oven Sides
Cheesy scalloped potatoes, Dutch oven stuffing, baked beans, and roasted vegetables.

Dutch oven Breads
Baking powder biscuits, Southern Cornbread, Garlic Cheese Rolls, Banana bread and Hawaiian braided bread.

Dutch oven Breakfast
Sausage soufflé, eggs, pancakes, and vegetable omletes.

Dutch oven Desserts
Cherry Chocolate cake, Pineapple upside down cake, Fruit cobbler, and Apple tort.


Dutch oven Cooking 101

You can cook these Dutch oven recipes on your stove, oven, or campfire without missing a beat. That’s what’s so great about cast iron. But if you want those Dutch oven meals to turn out well, you need to keep these things in mind:

Follow the Directions Exactly
Dutch ovens cook differently. Don’t alter the amounts in the recipe. And make sure you measure everything correctly. What can look wrong is actually right because the rules are a bit different for a Dutch oven—especially for desserts. You will become accustomed to it after a little practice.

Know How Well Your Dutch oven is Seasoned
The better seasoned your oven, the easier it is to get wonderful results. If your oven is new or poorly seasoned, then you will want to make sure it’s well oiled. If you’re making bread (regardless of how well seasoned the oven is) coat the inside in shortening and heat it for a few minutes before adding the batter.

Keep Your Oven at a Constant Temperature
This is the number one key to success. And it can be the most difficult skill to master. This isn’t a problem when cooking indoors of course. We’re talking now about outdoor cooking. The next section will show you how to master this skill.

Outdoor Cooking Rx

Buy high quality charcoal briquettes. You want something that burns evenly for about an hour’s time. Don’t buy ‘match light’ briquettes. They burn out too fast. Now it’s time to set up your heat source.

Briquette Position
You will be putting briquettes on the bottom and on the lid of your Dutch oven. The briquettes on the bottom need to be in a circle that is ½ inch smaller all around than the outside edge of the oven. The briquettes on top need to be in a checkerboard pattern on the lid.

Number of Briquettes

Here is a handy chart for your cooking pleasure. If it’s very windy or cold, you may need more briquettes. Don’t be afraid to lift the lid and check on your food!

This chart will show you how many briquettes you need to use to achieve a certain temperature in your Dutch oven. The numbers across the top refer to the cooking temperature you wish to achieve. The number down the side refers to your Dutch oven’s diameter. So if you have a 12 inch Dutch oven and want to cook something at 350 degrees, for example, you would need 25 briquettes.


325

350

375

400

425

450

8

15

16

17

18

19

20

10

18

21

23

25

27

29

12

23

25

27

29

31

33

14

30

32

34

36

38

40

Briquette Position

Now you know how many briquettes to use to get a certain temperature. The next question is how many briquettes go on the top, and how many go on the bottom? Use this guide:

To Roast
Put ½ of the briquettes on the bottom, ½ on the lid.

To Bake
Put 1/3 on the bottom, 2/3 on the lid.

To Simmer
Put 2/3 on the bottom, 1/3 on the lid.

How to Handle Your Hot Dutch oven Without Hurting Yourself

All of those coals are going to make your Dutch oven very hot. And the food will make it heavy. Here are a few of the Dutch oven accessories that will make your life easier:

Leather gloves: Don’t use synthetic—they will melt!

Lid lifter: This accessory will keep your hands away from the hot coals on the lid.

Quilted handle sleeve: Pot holders aren’t enough (though you should have them). A quilted sleeve will keep you from burning your hands.

Cast iron trivet: This protects your table top from the Dutch oven’s heat.

Fireplace tongs and poker: Use these to move the coals around during cooking.

Iron tripod: Useful if you don’t want to kneel in front of a campfire.

Carry Case: Either woven or wooden. This protects your cast iron during storage. It also protects your clothes and car from the oil on the Dutch oven.

Turkey baster: To remove excess liquid during cooking.

Long handled tongs: These move either food or briquettes while keeping your hands away from hot liquids or flame.

Many of these accessories can make your cooking experience very pleasant. But don’t think you have to buy everything at once. If you can only afford a few items, get a pair of leather of leather gloves, tongs, and a turkey baster. This will get you started. Buy the other items as you can.

Creating great tasting food is easy in your Dutch oven—if you’re prepared. Stock up on the necessary supplies and follow the above tips. You will soon be making meals your family and friends rave about.


this doesn't "chart" well when posting on the site -


TEMPERATURE CONTROL
Temperature shock (cold-to-hot or hot-to-cold) can damage your oven --either by cracking or warping. However, a well-made dutch oven (ie not a Chinese import) is much more forgiving than you'd expect. You can safely put your pot right onto coals if the coal temperature isn't too hot to cook.
Different foods and dishes require different cooking temperatures. The following guide is for an aluminum dutch oven. Increase the number of briquettes by about one-fourth for a cast-iron oven. Actual temperatures will vary due to charcoal quality and weather.

Desired Temperature Range Ten-Inch Oven Twelve-Inch Oven
250-300 - Low 8 on top/6 under 10 on top/8 under
300-350 - Medium 10 on top/7 under 12 on top/9 under
350-400 - Hot 12 on top/8 under 14 on top/10 under
400-450 - Very Hot 14 on top/9 under 16 on top/12 under

When coals are 'hot', they are barely covered with white ash and you can hold your hand near them for only 2 or 3 seconds. You can hold your hand near 'medium' coals for about 5 seconds. Low coals are covered with ash. You should be able to hold your hand near them for about 7 seconds.

Many dutch oven cooks use the "three up, three down rule." For 325 degrees in a 12-inch diameter iron oven you need 12 briquettes + 3 = 15 briquettes for the top and 12 briquettes - 3 = 9 briquettes for the bottom. To get 350° F, add one more coal on both the top and bottom. Each two additional coals will give you about 20° F more heat.

The objective is to get the oven hot enough to cook the food before it dries out, yet not so hot you can't control the cooking process. In most cases, if the food is sputtering and popping a lot, the heat is too high. If the temperature is hot enough to suit the needs of a blacksmith, it's too hot to cook and could likely damage your dutch oven. Using your tongs, remove about one fourth of the briquettes at a time from the top and underneath until the cooking slows to a steady simmer.

Preheating your dutch oven isn't normally needed. I can think of a couple of exceptions. For example:
When you want to sear a roast prior to roasting, bring the oven up to temperature, then brown the meat on all sides in a bit of oil, then add vegetables, etc. and cook.

When using the lid as a griddle to cook pancakes, turn it inside up, place over your coals and bring to cooking temperature before pouring the batter. I judge pancake temperature with a couple of drops of water. If the water droplets pop or explode into vapor, the lid is too hot to properly cook pancakes. If the water does nothing or gently sizzles, it's too cool. If the water dances around the lid, you're ready to cook.


I hope this helps
 
I'm not familiar with that book - but having gone over the cliff years back on "old recipes" - specifically colonial American - quite a number of those dishes simply included bacon or salt pork as a flavoring ingredient - i.e. it was not "pre-cooked"

the cooks of the day simply 'understood' it meant to slice up / cube the stuff and put it 'raw' in the pan / pot - to cook & flavor along with 'the other stuff'

in the case of bacon specifically, if you fry/bake/[whatever] strips of bacon to a crisp stage, reserving / not reserving the fat, then crumble it into a wet dish (stew / chili / boiled chicken etc) the crispy crumbly bacon goes all soggy to the tooth....

another good example is clam chowder - many early recipes call for a cured pork product but I have found 'pre-crisping' not a good approach - fwiw.

now, crisped & crumbled bacon as an (example) Cobb salad topping - definitely good stuff.

just a thought - applicability depends on the genre of the recipe.
 
Thankyou for the welcome Kevin, my name is jim, and I'm from Anchorage, my questions on the "Threads" relate to camping, Dutch Oven cooking. Any experience?

Hi Jim! Anch. huh? SMALL WORLD! I lived in Anch for a bit, too. And as far north as Deadhorse- as far south as Dutch Harbor, Admiralty island and many places in-between from the Interior to the Kenai P. Lived/worked up north for 13 years and miss it dearly!
 
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