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 Posted By: The Ironic Chef 
Dec 20  # 6 of 18
Quote Jafo232 wrote:
My starter eventually bit the dust and it is so cold here right now, I don't feel like getting it going again. Will probably start one in the spring.

I'm thinking back to the pioneer days when all the settlers were crossing the frontier. I would think that each family had a sour dough starter. It was probably a means for survival, lol.
It's sad to think that in this day and age, if your starter goes bad you can't go to a family member or a friend and they would give you some. No one really makes sour dough any more. It's a shame.
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 Posted By: chubbyalaskagriz 
Dec 20  # 7 of 18
RE: "I'm thinking back to the pioneer days when all the settlers were crossing the frontier. "

Sourdough is still HUGE in Alaska- precisely because of these frontier days that you describe. Afterall- the frontier days aren't that distant to many Alaskans living a remote lifestyle in a harsh clime, and in many regions, it still IS those days- Ha! In fact, sourdough is such a part of The Last Frontier State that the actual term "Sourdough" is used to signify a true time-tested "pioneer" of the state- or someone who's lived there a long time.

A quick sidenote: One of my favorite restaurants in Anchorage is the "Sourdough Mining Company". Here's a link if you'd care to check out their scrumptious meat & potatoes/ribs/seafood/steakhouse menu chock-full of Alaskan classics! (click on the "menus" tab at the top, then select catering menu, lunch menu, dinner menu, etc. I always took visiting friends & family there for a "real" Alaskan dining experience!)

Sourdough Mining Company | Anchorage, Alaska
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 Posted By: Jafo232 
Dec 20  # 8 of 18
I watched one of those "How it's made" shows on the history channel a few years ago and they were doing San Fransisco sourdough. They had the head bread guy somewhere there in SF explaining how their starter was a couple hundred years old or some such thing.

This episode is what got me sold on trying to make my own starter. He explained that if you took a truckload of this starter and brought it say, to Manhattan it would do you no good. For a couple weeks sure, you would have real SF tasting sourdough but eventually the local yeasts and bacteria would find their way into it and completely change the flavor.

I think that "localness" of the yeast is the most appealing part of the entire thing. Anything you can make that very few can is always a plus. Doesn't matter how good a cook say, Cathy is, no matter what she does, she cannot make the same tasting bread as me, and vice versa when it comes to the sourdough because she lives in a different area.
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 Posted By: The Ironic Chef 
Dec 20  # 9 of 18
Jafo, I grew up in Up State New York. We had our sourdough bread that was and still is excellent. Of course it isn't a San Fransisco sourdough, lol. It was a NY sourdough. There is a bread baker in the same area that has gained some notoriety through the past years that makes excellent artisan style breads. His name is Daniel Lerner. He put out an excellent cook book several years ago called Bread Alone. He has been on PBS several times to baking as a guest on several of the stars shows. It's an excellent read that goes through the scientific methods for baking breads, making sour doughs and levains. He goes through step by step methods, tells the history on everything from starters, sponges, poolishes and recipes. In his opinion, the Catskill Mountains in New York State provides the best air for natural yeast. I am sure that any good baker from any where would say the same about their area.
I believe that when a person makes their own starter, nurtures it and makes wonderful bread with it, that's what really matters. When you take a loaf of homemade bread from the oven, cut through that thick crust and lather on the butter and take a bite. That's what is all about. Not where your from, not the yeast, not whether it's the best bread in the world. That's not what it's about. Taking that first bite of hot bread that you just baked to me is like picking that first ripe tomato of the season from your garden.
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 Posted By: Cook Chatty Cathy 
Dec 20  # 10 of 18
Quote The Ironic Chef wrote:
I believe that when a person makes their own starter, nurtures it and makes wonderful bread with it, that's what really matters. When you take a loaf of homemade bread from the oven, cut through that thick crust and lather on the butter and take a bite. That's what is all about. Not where your from, not the yeast, not whether it's the best bread in the world. That's not what it's about. Taking that first bite of hot bread that you just baked to me is like picking that first ripe tomato of the season from your garden.

Oh absolutely IC, I could not agree with you more!

After discussing it with Jafo I am going to try my hand at it. What I have decided upon is to let my bowl of starter sit on a table in our screened in room outside to catch the yeast. I am even going to drive over to a place called Cave Spring, Georgia and draw up some natural spring water that bubbles up there [all the locals come to the spring and fill up gallon jugs of fresh water] I am now so excited to see what the results will be. I am even going to buy a new dish towel that has never been washed in bleached water to cover the dough with so that the bleach residue in my towel covering the dough does not impede the natural yeast. Wish me luck guys! I will let you know, GOSH I LOVE SOUR DOUGH BREAD!!!! This will be a real treat for Christmas. Thank you everone for all the great in-put, your sharing has helped me loads!