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 Posted By: spiceplace 
Sep 1  # 1 of 8
Anyone done any Sous vide cooking?

It's a water oven. You seal, say, a steak, in a foodsaver bag. Then cook it in, say, 140 deg F water for 8 hours. It's safe because you get the food to an internal temperature high enough to kill the bad things. And yet, the temperatures are low enough to not destroy the flavor by heating too high.

I read about this in the book Cooking for Geeks last year. It's widely used in France for the last 30 years.

Last month I bought a set up. I've cooked with it several times with mixed success. Last weekend I had my best success by cooking two New York Strip steaks for 7 hours, and then browning them over high heat, to get caramelization. Tremendous. It had the flavor and texture of Prime Rib.

I'm looking for a cookbook or guidance on cooking times. Any thoughts?
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 Posted By: ChileFarmer 
Sep 1  # 2 of 8
I vac bag most everything, but have never done that with meat. I have cooked veggies in the boiling water. Interesting!! CF
I will be checking it out.
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 Posted By: spiceplace 
Sep 1  # 3 of 8
Yeah. The trick with Sous Vide is supposed to be in the chemistry of when proteins denature (I think it means start to be break down but don't know what a protein is exactly so don't know what breaking down really means other than it tastes good). I do know that rare steaks taste best but there is a risk of bugs in the rare steak and the Sous Vide method kills them. Supposedly 135 to 140 is best for steaks, and when conventionally cooking , over 140 some bad tasting things start and since you're cooking at 200-300 degrees it's guaranteed to happen. So with Sous Vide you cook upto but not over the temperature where foods taste best. It just takes a long time. And I need a cookbook too :)

With Sous Vide, there is some science to how long to cook for each thickness as it takes some time for the steaks to get to 140, and then there is a hold time. To kill the bugs, it takes a long time at 140, thus the reason for cooking for 7 hours. But you can't overcook and it won't burn. Carmelization matters to flavor, so you have to brown before serving.

I have a pork loin in my water oven now. First I grilled it on low for 45 minutes, then sealed it in the foodsaver gallon bag and am cooking at 160 F for 24 hours. Will brown again after that. I have this from a recipe but need more recipes from a legit source.

Matt
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 Posted By: Mama Mangia 
Sep 1  # 4 of 8
I don't know - that cooking scares me. They say that bacteria sets in between the temps of 41 and 140* F. And regardless of the plastic - foods should not be cooked in plastic bags because of the chemicals leaching into the foods.

I'm just an old fart - if I am going to cook meat that long - I will do it the way my ancestors did - in the oven on low or use the crockpot.

Most meats should be cooked to at least 160* F. - I'm an old timer - so I'll just stick to my ways.
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 Posted By: spiceplace 
Sep 1  # 5 of 8
Hi Mama!
I understand the concern. Keep food below 40 or above 140 is the rule.

The bad stuff dies at 132 so you need accurate instruments and time.