I agree with mama if I can't feel it in my hands and see it with my own eyes I just don't think I could trust it. JC Penny's and Kohl's department stores carry good quality cookware, but I just bought a new refrigerator so I will have to wait to buy new cookware. I can make do with what I have, which is a hodge podge
of cast iron, tfal, caephalon, a little bit of everything at the moment.