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 Posted By: Mama Mangia 
Feb 27  # 11 of 16
it's a "waste-not" soup - I got a rich broth from those chickens - the last half hour or so of baking the birds I turned them upside down and then transferred them to the serving platter that way - made it fast and easy to rip the carcass off and get rid of all the bones, the back, etc. because it was hot and fresh out of the oven (beats trying to do the same when cool) - then just turn over when the back is cleaned off and pulled off the skin and tossed it in the soup pot - within a few minutes of taking them from the oven my soup was on the stove and we were enjoying our meal - after dinner I got the kitchen cleaned up while the soup continued to simmer - once strained I placed it in the fridge overnight so any fat would rise to the top to skim off the next day (don't forget - I did add a bit of butter to the water in the bottom of the roasting pan and rubbed a bit on the skin - although I really didn't have much fat to skim)

next day - add whatever you want - freeze some of the broth for future meals/use -
sometimes I like to add noodles to a veggie soup - it woud have still been hearty without them - and you can add couscous, barley, rice, tortellini, gnocchi, rags (thick homemade noodles which I absolutely love)
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 Posted By: Dilbert 
Feb 27  # 12 of 16
Quote Mama Mangia wrote:
thank you Janie - but by doing that, can someone else use them?

anything publicly posted on the internet can be copied - do not believe any statements to the contrary. anything "privately" posted on the internet is only safe from the last hacker who failed.

if you don't want the risk of seeing your picture used on the side of a bus, do not post it on the internet.

hosting sites that have "private" feature means you must give each individual the acct ID & password and/or/alternate scheme they have to "create their own account" - I have people who send me links to 'private' or 'you must join' and quite frankly my dear I don't have the inclination to create and maintain accounts and passwords at thousands of sites . . .
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 Posted By: Mama Mangia 
Feb 27  # 13 of 16
that is what I don't want - so many sites claim to be "safe" but if they can hack into these big businesses and do damage I'm quite sure they can get into anything they want -I'll wait for the CD to come and see if that makes it possible - yeah I know - who'd want a picture of a dead chicken in roasting pan?? but it's the principal
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 Posted By: Dilbert 
Feb 27  # 14 of 16
>>the principle

years ago CompuServe had a strict "author's rights maintained" policy; after AOL bought CompuServe that policy changed to "AOL, and anyone else they said, had full rights to anything and everything you post"

many, many authors, photographers, experts in every field and endeavor deleted their posts/files/content - it was the beginning of the end . . .

I had posted many articles/files/information on specific topics - along with software programs, etc., and I deleted every last one.
I'd put a lot of time & effort into that work and I was not about to permit AOL to assume ownership.

(1) if it's a secret, don't write it in email.
(2) if you cannot undergo the risk someone will steal/copy your work, do not post it on the internet.

and that is an entirely different situation from any site's "policy" - locks only keep honest people honest. the crooks just break the lock and steal your stuff anyway.

here's photobucket - they say they do not claim rights, but anyone who can "see" the material is free to use it in any fashion and in any media that viewer chooses - and note they do not even preclude commerical use of your material.

Proprietary Rights in Content on Photobucket.

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 Posted By: The Ironic Chef 
Feb 27  # 15 of 16
Be careful Mama One of them chickens you roasted up may appear on a Tee Shirt at Walmart.