You know KYH I see your point exactly, except I do have to say like for instance Paula Dean, she is a real down to earth honest to goodness woman and also Malto Mario, he is in fact a very ordinary looking guy no real Hunk there that I can see (and I love him just the way he is) but I think you have a point in the "Bouncy Boobie Babes" having an edge on say a "plain Jane" looking chef no matter what her heritage.

I think the FN needs many more minorities! They have their original Iron Chefs, and are beginning to bring on some other minority chefs every now & then, but let me tell you I know some of the finest cooks and they are all black and hispanic & can cook like nobodies business!!! Why are there so few on FN??? Well, unless like you say... TV & I don't care what channel it is.....loves serving up sexy looking white "sirens" and sex sells so I hear!!! There are sexy and beautiful latin and black and oriental women and men too.... what's with the all white thang, they need to get with the program and begin to wake up to the fact that America is ethnically diverse and we need more diversity on their Network!

Problem is, Big Daddy, that I don't recall as there ever was a thread, per se, about FN.

As you've probably gathered from your reading, nobody over here worries much about threadnapping. So we could have a thread that starts out talking about, say, canning green beans, and winds up as a desertation on the poor attitude of French cooks.

So it was with FN discussions. They just evolved inside other threads, ran their course, and that was it.

Of course there's nothing stopping you from starting one.

Sister Chatty, y'all 'member when I taught you that flavor is not a criterium when they develop hybrids?

My impression is that it's the same thing at FN and minorities. They choose the minority star for all sorts of reasons. But kitchen talent isn't one of them. And, just as with flavor and hybrids, when the minority celebrity does have talent it slips in by accident.

An example: Think about your adapted abuela. Now compare her to that erstwhile Latina cook who lasted, what? One season? She couldn't cook worth a damn, but had no trouble shaking her chest at the camera.

Then there was that black guy who toured bakeries. Sugar Rush was the show. He was conventionally good looking. And the singularly most boring human being I've ever heard on TV.

The world is full of great minority cooks. There's no problem finding them, if that's really your goal. Which isn't the case at FN.

BTW, neither the original Iron Chef nor Mario Batali can be found at FN anymore. And it wouldn't surprise me to find that Paula Dean and Ina Garten are on their way out.

I'd start one, but don't know where to put it.

Start it in Chatter!