Hey ainjel!
and I was thinking you were a vegetarian. Not there is anything wrong with that. I have a lot of friends that are vegetarian and know a few vegans.

The whole ground beef scene is a mess because the butchers throw all of the junk in there. We buy only 96 -98% lean too. and if we can find organic lean beef, we always buy that over the manufactured beef.

I heard a story on NPR about Jack in the Box using 75% lean which to the reporter looked like 100% fat. There's more fat in the gournd beef then you see.

I wish we could find organic ground beef! I'm sure I could get it if I were willing to drive a bit more. My compromise on that is to support local producers. I live in a small town that really is becoming more like a suburb. But we still have a nice small grocery store that carries tons of stuff and buys and sells a lot of local produce. So I go there. The guys that work behind the meat counter are great and really receptive to all the customers. They trim the fat off my chicken and beef so I don't have to. I can buy 6 pounds of ground beef and they automatically offer to wrap each pound (or two) separately. The whole store really thrives on small town customer service. So I love going there even if they don't have much in the way of organic products.

Mmmm! My favorite way to have hamburgers is from the grill. That's when they're the best. We get our organic beef from Giant Eagle.

I consider myself a good cook, and find myself grilling quite often. Everything from thick steaks, to ribs, to fruits & veg's. But, I also always find myself going back and ejoying a great grilled burger. mmmm

hi khartman,

thanks for the tip.
i tend to barbeque over a consistent lower flame.
something like slow grill.

will test your method the next time i grill my hamburger.