Can I make some suggestions here? I know this software (Vbulletin) like the back of my hand. I am a Level 7 Vbulletin Coder:

vBulletin.org Forum - Show Groups (See Jafo232).

I run forum networks that get more posts in one day, than this forum has ever has.

Recommendation: This software is WAY out of date. It needs to be upgraded badly. There are so many security vulnerabilities for this version, it is a shock the site hasn't been hacked yet.

Once upgraded to the latest version, Vbulletin has created a new feature which uses Akismet to beat back spammers.

I designed a plugin to actually do this before they made it a feature. It became quite popular and I think it gave the VB team the idea.

Akismet will check a post to see if it has been marked spam on other forums, contains links that have been used in spam, and check IP addresses to see if they have been flagged for spam. The post is either put into moderation, or outright deleted depending on how you set it.

You can also submit spam to Akismet to beat the spammer before he can spam somewhere else.

We waste a lot of time in here talking about, and dealing with spammers. If the admin of this site would just upgrade the software, it would end over 95% of this.

Just my two cents..

Hey gang- I'm guilty as anyone of sometimes misinterpeting something someone "says" at forums such as this... I've often read something between the lines that wasn't really there, or visa-versa. So I understand- I truly do. But let's not let icky spammers come between us.

I love this place- and I care for the people.

Ain't no finer folks than Brook and mama... and it pains me to see any bickering. Whether it's justified or not- it still pains me... so please- everyone- make a kind effort.

I've felt pressured to leave forums before due to tasteless conflict resolution... and it sucks. Sometimes I see both sides (like in this case) and sometimes not... but as dumb-azz as it sounds- let's please just all get along. I don't want that empty feeling of wandering aimlessly without an online kitchen home any more, ever again. Been there- done that and I ain't partial to it, one bit.

Thanks to all for doing the nice thing.

I am sure Mama and Brook will work out their problems.
Kevin who is that in your new avatar? What an adorable picture!

From day one...I was made to feel welcome here. We are family.As all family member's that care about one another we have different opinions. That is what makes us unique.I'm thankfull I have ALL of you as my " online " friends.

There should be no hard feelings from anyone - I am not the site owner/administrator - or I would handle spammers my way and I would not have to deal with them.

And there is no reason for anyone to think we don't get along.

It's not worth getting into any conversation regarding the idiots that want to ruin a site (spammers) we all feel the same about them anyway.

I cannot control the software or update it - believe me I would.

I am just deleting the unwanted posts that I can.

In the meantime - there is nothing that can be done because of the way this is set up other than what I am doing.

We can talk about this until we are blue in the face - but there is no need - we all feel the same about it.

Just ignore the spammers - there are other ways we can get them.